{"id":123376,"date":"2026-04-13T06:35:00","date_gmt":"2026-04-13T06:35:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/foojay.io\/?p=123376"},"modified":"2026-04-27T12:06:10","modified_gmt":"2026-04-27T12:06:10","slug":"foojay-podcast-93","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/foojay.io\/today\/foojay-podcast-93\/","title":{"rendered":"Foojay Podcast #93: Update Your JDK, Read More Code, and Talk to Your Users: Interviews From VoxxedDays Amsterdam"},"content":{"rendered":"\n    <div class=\"article__table\">\n        <div class=\"article__table-header\">\n            <svg width=\"24\" height=\"24\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\">\n                <path d=\"M8 6H21\" stroke=\"#3562E5\" stroke-width=\"1.5\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" \/>\n                <path d=\"M8 12H21\" stroke=\"#3562E5\" stroke-width=\"1.5\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" \/>\n                <path d=\"M8 18H21\" stroke=\"#3562E5\" stroke-width=\"1.5\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" \/>\n                <path d=\"M3 6H3.01\" stroke=\"#3562E5\" stroke-width=\"1.5\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" \/>\n                <path d=\"M3 12H3.01\" stroke=\"#3562E5\" stroke-width=\"1.5\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" \/>\n                <path d=\"M3 18H3.01\" stroke=\"#3562E5\" stroke-width=\"1.5\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" \/>\n            <\/svg>\n            Table of Contents\n            <svg class=\"chevron\" width=\"24\" height=\"24\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\">\n                <path d=\"M18 15L12 9L6 15\" stroke=\"#3562E5\" stroke-width=\"1.5\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\"\/>\n            <\/svg>\n        <\/div>\n        <div class=\"article__table-body\"><span><a href=\"#h2-0--ou-ube\">YouTube<\/a><\/span><span><a href=\"#h2-1--odcast-pps\">Podcast Apps<\/a><\/span><span><a href=\"#h2-2--ontent\">Content<\/a><\/span><\/div><\/div><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><html><body><p>In this episode of the Foojay Podcast, we're bringing you something special: a full batch of hallway-track conversations recorded live at VoxxedDays Amsterdam.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Fifteen guests, one conference, and one theme that kept coming back, whether we planned it or not: Java has grown up quietly, steadily, and in ways that still surprise people who haven't looked lately. 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